Such a Nightmare: Conversations about Horror

Jaysen Buterin, Kevin Kangas, Ron Riekki | Interview (2022) | Eerie Extras

October 20, 2022

In this very exciting Eerie Extra, co-host Katherine Troyer talks with some masters of clownish horror: Jaysen Buterin, Kevin Kangas, and Ron Riekki. Buterin (writer and director of the film Kill Giggles) and Kangas (writer and director of Fear of Clowns 1 & 2) are featured in Riekki's 2022 edited collection The Many Lives of Evil Clowns. We talk about our shared love of the genre and why clowns are a terrifying and ubiquitous part of horror. If you want to know more about being an indie horror filmmaker, hear about the awesomeness of horror festivals, and just listen to a bunch of cool dudes talk horror...this is the interview for you! Listen as a podcast or watch the video interview on YouTube.


This interview occurred on June 15, 2022; the episode first aired on October 20, 2022.


JAYSEN BUTERIN is the writer/director of award-winning indie film fare such as the Tarantino-meets-Twilight Zone trilogy, “The Gospel According to Booze, Bullets & Hot Pink Jesus,” the on-the-road thriller, “Between Hell and a Hard Place,” and the sinister stay-at-home horror hits “Don’t Let the Light In” and “The Corner.” He’s currently awaiting the Hollywood studio release of his very first feature-length film, the coulrophobia-courting/clown-killing thrilling goodness of KILL GIGGLES, while also prepping a series of screenplays to go into production once the Apocalypse finally goes away!!! His website is and you can learn more about his films at and Follow him on Facebook: Twitter: Instagram: instagram/com/themadonesfilms and on the CB Radio: Clown Killer 666


KEVIN KANGAS is is the writer/director of seven feature films, including the cult-classic Hunting Humans, the Lionsgate features Fear of Clowns 1&2, and the hit anthologies Terrortory 1&2. He's also published a novella about vampires called "With Teeth" and a book that's more a love-letter to Halloween called Halloween: The Greatest Holiday of All. His website is and you can check out his IMDb page at Want to see his films? Check them out at


RON RIEKKI is an author, poet, editor, actor, and more. His books include My Ancestors are Reindeer Herders and I Am Melting in Extinction (Apprentice House Press), Posttraumatic (Hoot ‘n’ Waddle), and U.P. (Ghost Road Press).  Riekki co-edited The Many Lives of The Evil Dead and The Many Lives of The Twilight Zone (McFarland) and Undocumented (Michigan State University Press), and edited The Many Lives of Scary Clowns and The Many Lives of It (McFarland), Here and And Here (MSU Press, Independent Publisher Book Award), and The Way North (Wayne State University Press, Michigan Notable Book).  His story “America,” published in decomp, was turned into a film by mc² film in Romania, winning awards at the Red Rock Film Festival and Tres Court International Film Festival and was distributed throughout Greece.  His story “Teeths,” Pushcart nominated and published in Santa Barbara Literary Journal was turned into a film by the same production company, winning awards at the Dracula Film Festival, Rockport Film Festival, and Tres Court International Film Festival and screened at over one hundred theaters in France.  Riekki played the title role in the horror film Flesher (directed by John Johnson), receiving a Crimson Screen Horror Film Fest nomination for Best Actor in a Feature Film.  He also acted in the movie Short Straw (directed by Steve Balderson), starring Joe Pantoliano and Sarah Clarke. You can follow him on Twitter @RiekkiRon


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